tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19217611.post2919255196058507032..comments2024-03-28T09:13:04.373-04:00Comments on KIKO'S HOUSE: Politix Update: Here's Why It's Time For Hillary To Finally Come Clean About BillShaun Mullenhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14964214385216513188noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19217611.post-73052992901954265102016-01-08T04:49:31.574-05:002016-01-08T04:49:31.574-05:00I totally agree with Susan's comments. I fail ...I totally agree with Susan's comments. I fail to see how not addressing this makes Hillary untrustworthy. Get to know the woman and judge her on her abilities. There is no way we can know the truth of what goes on behind closed doors of any relationship. Sometimes I am still confused by what goes on in my own 45+ relationship. This issue is no more relevant to her abilities to be president than it was when the GOP drug it up the first time. They are nothing but obstructionist as they have proved time and again.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19217611.post-66274477889997290342016-01-07T23:46:32.368-05:002016-01-07T23:46:32.368-05:00I have always felt that the glue that held this ma...I have always felt that the glue that held this marriage together was that they were made for politics and as a couple, playing the game of big time politics is what they get off on. Bill's infidelities were more of a PR problem that marred their "electability" than a persnal problem in the marriage. Politics as a practical art is the bedrock of their marriage. They were made for this stuff and therefore they are a perfect couple. It is Shakespearean as in that nice couple the MacBeths. So I never felt like Hilary was truly vulnerable on this score because he is just so good at his game. Like Michael Jordan to basketball, Bill Clinton was the Ali of politics and Hilary is his best political friend. It is ,as an aside, interesting to note that her close confidant is married to Anthony Weiner and that marriage is still afloat. We're all sinners. Some are more forgiving .<br />mickey Omostlyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04680902855212842007noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19217611.post-27473773230828375072016-01-07T17:15:06.367-05:002016-01-07T17:15:06.367-05:00Thank you for a welcome perspective, George, but b...Thank you for a welcome perspective, George, but by your standard we should unremember other yucky things. My Lai? U.S. support of South African apartheid? Watergate? Feel free to unremember. My journalistic license would be if I did.Shaun Mullenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14964214385216513188noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19217611.post-68784966932761327542016-01-07T17:13:32.065-05:002016-01-07T17:13:32.065-05:00As usual, brilliantly written makes a lot of sense...As usual, brilliantly written makes a lot of sense to a man ... but I totally agree with Susan Winters assessment and Joann McMillan's painful but accurate lament. First I have no interest at all in Clinton's private parts or Hillary's "Stand by your Man" defense of her marriage ... Just suppose the press gets involved with Trump's private life ... he is going to say ... "it is none of your business ... next question" ... And the press will go on to the next question ... The majority of women on my FB page will vote for Bernie or Hillary for the simple fact the Republican Party has become Anti-Historical...meaning that when it comes to the issues that directly relate to their health ..welfare and safety for themselves and their CHILDREN ... they will vote for Bernie despite the fact that he is a democratic socialist and/ or vote for Hillary despite the failures of her husband ... she did not fail ... her husband did. She did what women have done through the ages ... they put the family first ... their pride and pain second. Moses left his wife and children ... he married a black African women in the desert much to the chagrin of Aaron's wife ... to lead 700,000 Jews to victory. Can you imagine if there was a Fox station then broadcasting the latest scandal of Moses! "Moses elopes with black woman ... hiding out in mountain retreat ... Mt Sinai ... oh what this world is coming to" ...George Wolkindnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19217611.post-51736762272289510022016-01-07T12:19:01.394-05:002016-01-07T12:19:01.394-05:00Sorry, no edit function.Sorry, no edit function.Shaun Mullenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14964214385216513188noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19217611.post-8669448589931024842016-01-07T11:40:16.630-05:002016-01-07T11:40:16.630-05:00Is it possible to edit a comment on this blow? I ...Is it possible to edit a comment on this blow? I see at least three typos in what I just posted.Alan Mullerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03903138982604085869noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19217611.post-3150104118179372016-01-07T11:35:27.847-05:002016-01-07T11:35:27.847-05:00This piece is OK with me, except for the last line...This piece is OK with me, except for the last line. How did her keeping quiet about Bill's infidelities become a "sacrifice of personal integrity?" What was she supposed to do? Hack off his balls on TV? IMO, within pretty broad limits (rape, pedophilia, workplace harassment...)sexual behavior should be a private matter. Yes, it may speak to a person's character, but to the (limited) extend possible politics should focus on matters of substance. <br /><br />The Clinton Foundation and how it has blurred all sorts of ethical boundaries seems a better focus on attention.<br /><br />I don't like either of these people very much, and I hope you are wrong about the inevitability of her becoming President. But I can see that if ends up with the Dem nomination I'll probably have to hold my nose and vote for her. But I am not going to spend mental energy thinking about Bill's zipper problem and her response to it....Alan Mullerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03903138982604085869noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19217611.post-63713192113062612692016-01-07T09:38:40.260-05:002016-01-07T09:38:40.260-05:00All true enough, but don't fall into a false e...All true enough, but don't fall into a false equivalency trap. Hillary is indeed not "the only woman in the world who has a husband who has acted like a total asshole." But she is the only woman in the world who likely will be the next president of the United States. That comes with certain obligations which I have laid out in some detail. Sorry.Shaun Mullenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14964214385216513188noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19217611.post-26008499445216941612016-01-07T09:38:00.962-05:002016-01-07T09:38:00.962-05:00Your message is clearer now- and it has value and ...Your message is clearer now- and it has value and I didn't "hate " it, it made me reconsider the issue. But why must these issues be addressed in public? I think that anything she says will be twisted into more abuse on the subject. I sense she is drawing a line by refusing to answer the attacks. (Why is Trump not under the same kind of scrutiny with his disastrous marriages? Because he pays for silence?) I doubt Hillary can assure us that Bill will not be a part of the presidential energy. I think the only thing she can safely say is, "we have put the past behind us." I don't think there is anything else she can say that won't be shredded in the GOP grinder, they will trot out any evidence they can find to poke holes in the Clinton situation as it stands today, or create their own evidence. She is not the only woman in the world who has a husband who has acted like a total asshole. We don't know what happens behind closed doors, nor can we trust what an ambitious person might say about that. Hillary chose to respond to Bill's antics in a specific and public way, she must have thought it all through very carefully, (as did Jacquie Kennedy? ) certainly she is not the only wife of a man with power who has considered her options when his response to power makes him stupid, and she is standing her ground on that. Sorry Shaun, but this time, the bottom line for me is that if she can continue to hold her ground and just let the assholes jump up and down and get more ridiculous by the minute on the subject, I think she wins in the long run. I had a cat that knew that if he sat in the side yard, the dog in the house next door would have a nervous breakdown. So that's exactly what he did, he sat there and calmly groomed himself while that dog ran from window to window barking furiously. I think of Hillary doing the same thing. Those guys are so desperate they want to hurt her with this. It's off limits. Period. Once again, Bill is the one who must answer to the questions about his character as evidenced by his behavior.Susan Wintersnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19217611.post-1146384582784191912016-01-07T07:28:31.198-05:002016-01-07T07:28:31.198-05:00Thank you for your heartfelt response.
Virtually ...Thank you for your heartfelt response.<br /><br />Virtually everyone I showed this piece to hated it. The big national blog where I am a contributing writer refused to publish it.<br /><br />Just to be clear, I am less interested in Hillary “explaining the marriage” in public than I am with her, as I write, “head[ing] off the misogynistic Trump and those right wingers at the pass and finally speak with a semblance of feeling about a past she and her husband can never quite escape,” as well as address concerns about a co-presidency.<br /><br />This is what I envision Hillary saying:<br /><br />“Thank you for jointing me here today. I will have some opening remarks and then take your questions.<br /><br />“As you know, Bill and I went through some very rough times some years ago. I cried myself to sleep some nights. But today our marriage and our family is stronger than ever, and we have put the past behind us. Bill is a partner in many things, but I — and I alone - will be president.”<br /><br />Will this stop the attacks? No, but whenever someone brings up these issues she can state that she addressed them forthrightly at a press conference in January and they’re welcome to watch the video. Meanwhile, she’s going to keep talking about income disparity, gender workplace issues, gun violence, stopping ISIS . . . and so on and so forth. But these issues <i>must</i> be addressed.Shaun Mullenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14964214385216513188noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19217611.post-25142142077841377202016-01-07T07:27:36.059-05:002016-01-07T07:27:36.059-05:00I was right with you until the last line, Shaun, &...I was right with you until the last line, Shaun, "Hillary Clinton sacrificed her personal integrity for future political gain. And would do so again." No one can be sure why Hillary Clinton didn't "throw the bum out". As children of the 60's our generation developed a very different view of relationships, marriage, and monogomy. Multiple partners, even within marriage, was not as frowned upon then as it is now. Hillary may have accepted the terms of this marriage very early on as a reality of marriage to Bill Clinton because she saw the greater good- and we cannot be sure that is only about power. The only reason I still cringe at the thought of her explaining the marriage in public is that it is so deeply personal and intimate because it's her relationship rather than her actions that would be disclosed. She may have decided a long time ago to take what some would call the "high road" and proceed with dignity to go on with life. Perhaps it's Bill who must continue to be the one who answers to his actions, the ones that nearly dethroned him, and other behaviors that reflect upon HIM and his character. That's the one thing we need to be concerned about if he once again has a voice in what happens in this country. Hillary is the only person who knows why she responded in the way she did and I don't see her behavior as a character flaw.Susan Wintersnoreply@blogger.com